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[Patrick F]

Remember, Jon Voight once said (in 2002) during an interview on TV that his daughter was suffering from serious mental problems (read the article below, I got from ContactMusic).

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Movie star JON VOIGHT has revealed he still hasn't had any contact with his daughter ANGELINA JOLIE or her four children - after she cut him out of her life for insinuating the actress was unbalanced. Voight sobbed on TV in America and publicly revealed Jolie was suffering from "severe emotional problems" during an interview in 2002. He has been estranged from his daughter ever since. Defending her decision to keep Voight out of her life and away from her family, the actress recently said, "He said some very ugly things to me about what he thought I was like as a person and how I was conducting my life. "Even though he is related to me, I don't have to listen to what he says. I don't have to care. And I don't have to have him in my life." And now Voight has decided that silence is the best way to endear him to his daughter, so he won't be making any more public attacks on her character. He tells RadarOnline.com, "I haven't been in touch with the kids and I would love to be spending time with them, that's all. I have nothing to say, people want to make news out of everything. "It's just a cruel slap at somebody and it becomes a part of our mythology, we can't correct it. I don't want to bring attention to it again. It always hurts me when things are brought back to the fore that are distorted."

What the article doesn't mention is that Jon gave his daughter an envelope before she left for her very first trip to Africa, her first trip for UNHCR. Once in the plane, she opened the envelope and read her father's letter, in which he said "you're a bad person".
Forgiving is a virtue of course, but I understand Angie she prefers not to talk to him anymore.
His declarations on TV could have jeopardized her adaption plans : Angie had just adopted Maddox, he could have been taken away, luckily it didn't happen.

[Patrick F]

This topic had been started in JolieCommunity, before the merging of the sites :

Should Angie and her dad reconciliate ?

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If you know Angie's personal story a little bit, you must know that a few years ago, following Angie's divorce, her dad said on TV "she had serious mental problems".
Following that, Angie prefered to ignore her dad, and she hasn't spoken to him for a few years now.
Yet, Jon Voight would like to meet his grand-children, and he praises his daughter for her talent and for what she does in third world countries.
So, I know it's none of our business, it's their private life, we have to respect their decisions of course, but, everyone has his little opinion about it; conflicts in a family or anywhere else are never nice ...
So, what do you think, do you think Angie and her dad should reconciliate ???

gab
I'd say no.
but who knows what time and cir****stances may bring

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Patrick F
I really don't know, honestly.
On the one hand, it's always sad to have long lasting conflictual situations in a family (or anywhere else);
on the other hand, Jon Voight should have NEVER said what he said in public.
Is he sincere, when he begs his daughter to call, or is just for the sake of seeing his grand-children ...
Should he make public excuses, if so, he should have done it a long time ago. Very complicated situation.
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Solo
no from me ... and after the Shakira accident NEVER smiley.gif

[Patrick F]

and there was this thread as well :

VOIGHT BEGS JOLIE TO CALL

All Angiefans know that Angelina has preferred not have any contacts anymore with her father, Jon Voight, (whom she plays with in Tomb Raider 1 : they are dad and daughter in that movie) since he made unfair declerations on TV, shortly after she divorced Billy Bob Thornton. As I said it in these forums already, it's OK for parents and children to disagree on certain points but there are matters you discuss in private, which doesn't necessarily mean you have to change your mind (you can but you don't have to ...). When a father says on TV his daughter is insane, that's going too far, and Angie can't be blamed for avoiding him.
Now using the baby as an excuse to regain your daughter's love, is it fair, is it unfair ? I don't know and this is not the place to discuss such issues. The future will tell us how Angie will react to her dad's asking for forgiveness.
She certainly worries a lot more about her mom's health (see topic in this forum and latest news on our newspage). But, yes, after all, a reconciliation would be fine (my opinion only), conflicts are always said, reconciliation if Jon is sincere and sorry about what he said.
Well read this :

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VOIGHT BEGS JOLIE TO CALL

Movie veteran JOHN VOIGHT insists his heartache over being excluded from his daughter ANGELINA JOLIE's life has doubled now she is pregnant with BRAD PITT's child.

The DELIVERANCE star is desperate to contact Jolie and be an active grandfather in the near future.

But, as far as the strong-willed brunette is concerned, the animosity between them continues.

He says, "I'm always trying to reach her and send her my love but I still haven't spoken to her.

"I wish somebody would help me and give her a call.

"Now she has announced she is pregnant with Brad's child, I would love to be included in this exciting moment."

Solo

she ll hate him even more !!! why he reacts soo much after finding out that she is pregnant with Brads child ?? why he didnt do that when she adopted Zahara?? why he didnt do anything big to catch Angie's attention when she was alone with Maddox?? I do not believe it was impossible for her own father to find way to talk to her... I think he misses the attention and since now Brad and Angie are huge he tries all to be under the spotlight around their lifes....its silly !!! do something new,something different..Do not use media man !

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Patrick F

And anyway, first thing he should do would be public excuses after what he said a bit more than two years ago.
and like you say it, Solo, does he wanna be under the spotlight again or, my question is, is he sincere ?
I'm more worried about Angie's mom, and I hope we'll have some good news about her soon !
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Angie still refuses to meet her dad : rather leaving somewhere else than meeting him, like recently. Read this story I got from ContactMusic :

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JOLIE AVOIDS SHOWDOWN WITH VOIGHT

LATEST: ANGELINA JOLIE spent 30 minutes in a car outside a Hollywood party on Wednesday (23AUG06), after realising her estranged father JON VOIGHT was in attendance. Jolie and boyfriend BRAD PITT took the night off caring for their three children MADDOX, ZAHARA MARLEY and SHILOH NOUVEL to attend the actor's OCEAN'S TWELVE co-star SCOTT CAAN's 30th birthday at Los Angeles' Julian's Gallery. Pitt left Jolie in the vehicle and entered the party to see Caan, shortly before Voight decided to leave. After realising her father had left the building, Jolie finally joined the bash, reports PageSix.com. Voight and Jolie haven't spoken to each other since 2002.
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Solo

wow u go Angie !!!


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[Patrick F]

From contactMusic here is something what I consider to be a scoop :

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JOLIE KEEN TO END BITTER ESTRANGEMENT FROM HER FATHER
ANGELINA JOLIE has offered to end her bitter estrangement with her dad JON VOIGHT, stating she's hoping to communicate with the Deliverance star. The couple have been estranged ever since she cut him out of her life for insinuating she was unbalanced in a tearful 2002 TV interview. Voight told America's Access Hollywood he felt Jolie was suffering from "severe emotional problems". That came before Jolie became a mum, and she has refused Voight's attempts to get close to her and her family ever since. In a recent interview, Jolie defended her actions, stating, "He said some very ugly things to me about what he thought I was like as a person and how I was conducting my life... I don't have to listen to what he says. I don't have to care. And I don't have to have him in my life." But it seems the mother of four, who lost her own mother to cancer in January (07), is now softening towards her father. She recently told London's Evening Standard newspaper, "I am hoping my relationship with my father will be more private in the future. "At the end of the day we both wish the best for each other and we'll try to start communicating in some way."